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Does Anyone Have Any Opinions On The Similarities Of When People Say Vaccines Are Related To Autism And The Tuskegee Experiment?
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Does anyone have any opinions on the similarities of when people say vaccines are related to Autism and the Tuskegee experiment? Just wondering if anyone has done research on it. I notice a lot of similarities. Not vaccine bashing, but just curious as to what other mothers think about it. Autism certainly isn't syphilis, but the similarities are concerning to me. In no way am I blaming vaccines for my daughters condition. So please don't take my question the wrong way. Just a "what if" kind ofโ€ฆ read more

posted October 30, 2016
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And by cure... I don't mean to sound super snarky (just a little snarky)... But, it would be very hard, in my opinion to outright cure autism. Now, don't get me wrong.... There are children with autism that are much more severe than myself and my son. And certainly, finding a way to help these children find their voice would be a Godsend. And finding a way to ease stress without medications would be amazing.

But, I find it hard to believe they could ever downright cure Autism, plainly because every child is so different and a lot of people with Autism do not just have Autism. There is no cure for MR, or Rett Syndrome, or many other things paired with Autism. It's a neurological disorder... and perhaps I am wrong... but I do not know of a single neurological disorder nor mental disorder, that has ever been cured - only managed and treated. I think stem-cell research would be the closest shot we'd have at an actual cure for neurological disorders, but many are not happy with the unethical ways we do that research. Even with the GFCF diet, for example. It may be that it works wonders for some people - but if they go off the diet, they revert back to what they were before they started - therefore it's merely managing the symptoms of Autism and not curing them.

I think more funding should go to finding ways to lessen the social and self burden of people with Autism, the things that really make life hard. And for many people with Autism, social interaction can be learned. It's other things that often accompany the social behaviors that bother people. They need to work on finding a way to make a non-verbal individual verbal!

IF they did find a cure for Autism though, I'd never take it. I love who I am. And I love who my son is (if there was a cure, when he becomes an adult, he could make his own decisions for that). If he was non-verbal, I would certainly reconsider my stance on that, however. If he had any other issues along side it, it wouldn't cure those problems. A child with Rett Syndrome and Autism, for example, you'd need to cure Rett Syndrome as well, otherwise you'd still be left with many of the original Autistic tendencies. But for me, a cure would take away my personality. My interests. My beliefs. It would change me. I don't want to change.

posted October 30, 2016
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With Autism however, if it was vaccine related and we are being experimented on, it would certainly be different than this experiment was, that is for sure. First of all, rather than us "contracting" the illness naturally, it would be suggesting we were randomly(or rather it would be controlled) given a dose of the MMR shot that gave us Autism. However, considering that many children and adults with autism receive inadequate to no support (even fake support) means that they aren't really doing that great experimenting on us, either for "cures" or whatever not. Also, the population of people with Autism is not only a minority group, as was in the Tuskegee experiment. Nor is it controlled and easily monitored considering it is all over the world. And while they are looking for a "cure" (give me a break), there isn't a large medical group running around testing it on little kids and letting them die because of it. (Only 74 men survived that experiment out of the 399 men with syphilis, and many wives contracted it from their husbands and children were born with it).

Autism, however, has been around much longer than the MMR vaccine (which was the vaccine fraudulently claimed to be the reason for Autism).

I understand you want to ask the "what if", but by doing this, you can inevitably get yourself nervous and upset. I wouldn't read into it that much.

posted October 30, 2016
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I do not think vaccines have anything, whatsoever, to do with Autism.

And while I think that the Tuskegee Syphilis experiment was downright dirty and extremely controversial, I do not believe anything like that is occurring with Autism. And I am not so sure what it is exactly you find similar to the situation between Autism and the men that had syphilis in that experiment. (Don't take that as harsh tone, I just am not sure how you're correlating these two things.)

For the Tuskegee experiment, these men already had syphilis, and the experiment was performed on impoverished African-Americans, likely due to racism, believing they were beneath other races and therefore no one would really care that it was happening to them.

They were never informed of their diagnosis, and were not given anything to make them contract syphilis, as they had it prior (not all of them but most of them!), the majority of the men with syphilis had it when they were drafted, which is how they knew who to get - and likely the remaining men were pulled in as part of the control group - but found that a few of them also had syphilis. Plus, they were being given so called "free medical". However, even though there was a cure later found for syphilis, (penicillin) they did NOT give the men the cure (and still had not informed them they even had the disease) but continued to experiment on them. After the funding was dropped, they continued to make these men believe they were receiving these extra benefits (burial insurance, for example) to continue testing on them even though the funding for the program was cut.

It wasn't until a press leak that they were finally fully shutdown.

Continued..... darn word count!

posted October 30, 2016

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