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Autism And Libraries
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I was wondering... if a new library security guard has to deal with a nonverbal autistic person, how should the security guard react, especially if the person is noisy? Does the autistic person have to be quiet in the library... or should it slide since most nonverbal autistics can't control themselves?

I just figure the security guard thinks that everyone has to follow library rules. Like, most security guards etc will be strict with rules and try to enforce them... regardless of the fact that… read more

posted September 29, 2018 (edited)
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A MyAutismTeam Member

if special needs kids could behave like normal kids- they wouldn’t be special needs. Noisy differs from kid to kid so it’s tough to say. Check on the rules of the library with the librarian. There should be rules on accommodations.

posted September 29, 2018 (edited)
A MyAutismTeam Member

If the problem persists make your own out door liabary . Forget the fool . Chances are rules will be altered and even if he seems to be complying your little one will pick up on the bad atmosphere . Use it ask a sign to tell you hey I can go read book outside in fresh air under a tree . They will find more freedom to feel comfortable don't force them do what ever don't come natural

posted October 10, 2018
A MyAutismTeam Member

Our library hosts a sensory storytime, so all the librarians in staff know our son. It’s a small local branch that not a lot of people frequent so they don’t care much if he makes a little noise or runs around. If he starts getting super loud, I will take him out and bring him another day. With a security guard, I assume it’s a bigger library. You could tell him about your child’s challenges - and tell the librarians, that way at least they can partner with you and help you when you visit.

posted September 30, 2018
A MyAutismTeam Member

Like all things there is a limit. They arent goibg to accept a kid screaming and running around unless there is a designatednplace for that but if all he is doing is laughing and talking (or the occasional screech like some autistic kids do) thwn they are supposed to accommodate that.Mine is still younger so I can get away with not taking him for the time being. I often buy my own books so its not a big deal for me. Perhaps just take him to the library when they have their big book sales? And get him a bunch of new books? I will go to our library's sale on the last day and get their bag of books sale. And if he is going there for an activity, then in an ideal world, it would be easy to to tell someone that he is autistic and request the accomdation. The thing about requesting accomadation, if it is within reason (i.e. you are warnibg them that he may make a bit of extra noise, not asking them to allow him to go batpoo crazy) then they can not legally refuse it according to ada laws. They can not tell you that you will have to leave just because your kid is making noise. As long as you have made them aware that your kid is special needs (not required to share diagnosis) and needs that accomadation, you have the right to report them for discrimination if they try to kick you out. And ita good to report them when they do this; not enough people do so too many businesses get away with treating autistic kids differently (in an offensive way, e.g exclusion) or refusing services. To report them start with the person's supervisor. If the chains oc command in the business do not listen and take care of the issue and there are no more levels to reach (e.g. people of authority in your community) then the next step is to report it to ada. The more they are reported (when they discriminate) the less they will do so. I had to do this with my local bus company. My child is in an adaptive wheelchair (looks like a stroller if you only glance at it) and ive had many bus drivers go as far as cussing me out because i told them its a wheelchair. After 2-3 years of fighting, the incidents have gone from extreme and constant to barely ever happening at all and usually being restricted to a dirty look.

posted September 30, 2018
A MyAutismTeam Member

The last time I was in our local library, the librarian overheard me tell my kids to stay in the kid's section while I grab a couple of movies. The librarian quickly followed me to the movie and told me the rules are no unsupervised kids under 10 in the library. Kind of pissed me off so I said "OK OK" and went back to the kid's section knowing my daughter drew attention to herself. Made sure the librarian heard me tell my kids to get some books because we have to leave. Happens to us a lot in public places and we are used to leaving rather than get into arguments. Haven't had anyone call the police yet but it wouldn't surprise me if someone did it under some circumstances.

Pretty much impossible to leave a kid anywhere now due to the fears and lawsuits. My parents would be jailed to letting me walk in our neighborhood and woods alone. People don't believe it but things changed a lot and I face stuff my parents never had to deal with.

By contrast I see a lot more homeless type people in the library which is ok but I remember one guy years ago who smelled so bad I could smell him 20 feet away before I could even see him. I would read a newspaper and know when he came into the room. It was 26 years ago but i never forgot that stench.

posted September 29, 2018

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