Depends on your insurance, We drive two hours to UCLA for my sons eye appointments. Dr Demer I believe, but it is at UCLA. My son who is nonverbal and was told needed glasses, well this doctor stated no he does not. If you go there usually a group of three or so doctors will do the exam (not always though). He stated its harder when children are nonverbal to get an accurate reading by most doctors, and Behavioral Optometrists will hand out glasses like they are candy. So yeah he was really good. My son is 6.